[antlr-interest] Re: Fwd: Ant Book Approacheth [Was PreservingFileWriter]

[jsrs701]

Thou art warned...

<rant>
What is it about open source projects and the endemic problem that 
the most basic things keep getting reimplemented?!  "If it ain't 
broke, rewrite it."  That seems to be the mantra.

I'm pretty sure we have enough build systems now.  Why does everyone 
have to write their own?  How 'bout some people start writing a 
decent, completely open source competitor to Word?  (One who's free-
ness isn't changing weekly *ahem Sun ahem*.)

Sheesh.
</rant>

Okay, I'm done now.  This isn't directed at anyone in particular.  
I'm just moaning.

--- In antlr-interest at y..., bob mcwhirter <bob at w...> wrote:
> 
> I'd be remiss if I didn't mention Maven, at this point...
> 
> 	http://jakarta.apache.org/turbine/maven
> 
> Pick just about any bob-project (drools.org, werkz.org, jaxen.org)
> to see a maven-powered project.  Maven takes an abstract project
> descriptor (project.xml) and does all the building, jaring, doc and
> metric generation, etc for you.
> 
> We're also working to ween ourselves from ant, and be based more
> upon a Jelly-based syntax, which is JSPesque.  
> 
> 	-bob 
> 
> 
> On Tue, 11 Jun 2002, Terence Parr wrote:
> 
> >  From Erik Hatcher...a few comments on Ant.
> > 
> > Begin forwarded message:
> > 
> > > From: "Erik Hatcher" <erik at h...>
> > >> On Tuesday, June 11, 2002, at 06:19  AM, Bogdan Mitu wrote:
> > >>> Just incidentally, the next incarnation of Ant (Ant 2) will be
> > >>> independent
> > >>> of XML or other particular encoding, which I think it's a 
step in the
> > >>> right
> > >>> direction.
> > >
> > > Ant 1.5 actually has pluggable ProjectHelper capability to 
allow you to 
> > > plug
> > > in a class that constructs the Project object.  The default one 
builds 
> > > it
> > > from parsing an XML file, but you can now plug in your own.  
Maybe you 
> > > ANTLR
> > > gurus could have one that takes a Makefile and constructs a 
Project 
> > > object
> > > :))
> > >
> > > This pluggable layer will be used, I think, to start providing 
XML 
> > > namespace
> > > support, but is much more generally capable than that.  One 
person I've 
> > > seen
> > > report that he's taken a project model (in XML) and XSLT'd it 
to a build
> > > file on the fly when invoking Ant so that all he maintains are 
the 
> > > project
> > > model and XSLT, no build.xml.
> > >
> > >> For your info, Erik Hatcher, a cool cat that manages the Ant 
FAQ at
> > >> jGuru, is done with his Ant book.  Should be out soon:
> > >>
> > >> Java Development with Ant by Erik Hatcher and Steve Loughran
> > >> ISBN 1930110-588 -- will be published August 1st
> > >> Softbound, 450 pages, $44.95
> > >
> > > And this is really going to be about 600+ pages - Manning has 
just never
> > > updated their info on our latest page count!  And yes, my 
fingers are 
> > > tired.
> > >
> > >     Erik
> > >
> > >
> > --
> > Co-founder, http://www.jguru.com
> > Creator, ANTLR Parser Generator: http://www.antlr.org
> > 
> > 
> >  
> > 
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