[antlr-interest] ANTLR build and package layout

Matt Benson gudnabrsam at yahoo.com
Thu Sep 19 12:24:50 PDT 2002


And that's fine.

-Matt

--- Xue-Feng Yang <just4look at yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> --- Xue-Feng Yang <just4look at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Ooooops, I don't ANTLR is a fundamental
> contribution
> > to computer science. Then who am I? So bad.
> > 
> I don't think ANTLR is a fundamental contribution to
> computer science.
> 
> 
> >  
> > --- Matt Benson <gudnabrsam at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > The article basically says that XML adds levels
> of
> > > complexity the human mind has evolved to infer
> by
> > > reflex.  Hopefully he wouldn't have to explain
> > "why
> > > that's bad."  Beyond that, I personally am
> careful
> > > how
> > > I speak to those who have made fundamental
> > > contributions to computer science.  Have you?
> > > 
> > > Just some thoughts,
> > > Matt
> > > 
> > > --- Xue-Feng Yang <just4look at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > Totally disagree!
> > > > 
> > > > The link you gave doesn't talk about "why
> that's
> > > > bad".
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > BTW, I wrote several compilers without using
> any
> > > > compiler compiler. However I never think that
> > > > compiler
> > > > compiler is useless.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- Terence Parr <parrt at jguru.com> wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > On Thursday, September 19, 2002, at 06:27 
> AM,
> > > > Matt
> > > > > Benson wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > > For whatever it's worth, Brian is not the
> > only
> > > > one
> > > > > out
> > > > > > here who wishes there were an Ant build
> for
> > > > ANTLR.
> > > > > 
> > > > > I am fundamentally opposed to Ant (even
> though
> > > it
> > > > is
> > > > > reputed to be 
> > > > > good) because it forces users to type XML. 
> > See
> > > > > "Humans Should Not Have 
> > > > > to Grok XML", which explains why that's bad:
> > > > > 
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/library/x-sbxml.html
> > > > > 
> > > > > I believe I'm pretty persuasive in that
> > article.
> > > > ;) 
> > > > > [though it will 
> > > > > make no difference whatsoever to most people
> > who
> > > > are
> > > > > "every language 
> > > > > should be XML" people--makes me wanna retch,
> > but
> > > > > that emotion is a good 
> > > > > thing since it forced me to make ANTLR (yacc
> > > makes
> > > > 
> > > > > me...well..er...yack!)].
> > > > > 
> > > > > Nonetheless, my goal is to make ANTLR useful
> > for
> > > > you
> > > > > folks.  Hence, if 
> > > > > somebody sends me a fresh Ant script with an
> > > > > explanation so I don't 
> > > > > have to think much, I will consider
> inserting
> > it
> > > > and
> > > > > using it for ANTLR 
> > > > > builds.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Ter
> > > > > --
> > > > > Co-founder, http://www.jguru.com
> > > > > Creator, ANTLR Parser Generator:
> > > > > http://www.antlr.org
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
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