[antlr-interest] Another StringTemplate Engine

[matthew ford]

I have also created a template engine based in StringTemplates
WebStringTemplate (www.webstringtemplates.com)
It differs from StringTemplates in that it defines a formal
data interface definition file (HTML) which allows the web page design and
the server programming to be completely separated and comes with
extensive documentation.
It also includes the concept of object filters on the server side modify
how the strings are produced by the server for supply to the
data interface.

I kept to the strict separation and aimed at keeping the web side of
 the template engine as simple as possible (there are already too
many languages out there to learn)

To over come the $100 red problem you mentioned and other
formatting issues,  I recommed web page designers using my engine
use javascript to do any UI type formatting.  The server provides the
data strings (as specified by the data interface definition file) and the
web page displays it as it wants.

matthew
P.S. V2 is under development which improves the visabliity of
templates and lets you develope the web pages using just
your favourate HTML editor, the data definition file
and a webpage containing the processing applet.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Andrew Deren" <andrew at adersoftware.com>
To: <antlr-interest at yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2004 2:27 AM
Subject: RE: [antlr-interest] Another StringTemplate Engine


> Yes, it was mostly to make things easier. Originally I didn't have some of
> those operators (equals, lt, gt), but with time I just added them.
> That was one reason I found antlr StringTemplate hard to use. It's strict
> separation of content and UI made it hard at times. I'm used to using CF
> language, which is content/gui/logic all in one file. Not a good idea, but
> gets things done really easily and fast.
> I just added few constructs that I thought would be necessary. In some
> instanced, you just need to put little bit of logic in your UI.
> For example if you're displaying list of orders and want to flag those
that
> have total less than $100 in red. You could add a property to your
business
> object, but that's not always desirable, especially if you didn't author
the
> business object. But of course it could be argued the other way, that if
> this requires some attention and if you deiced to change $100 to $200, it
> would make more sense to have it in the object itself.
> I've just know by experience (created 150,000 line cf back end system)
that
> sometimes you do need things like that in your UI for simplicity.
> Andrew
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Terence Parr [mailto:parrt at cs.usfca.edu]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2004 6:51 PM
> To: antlr-interest at yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [antlr-interest] Another StringTemplate Engine
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> Hi Andrew,
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> Seems interesting.  I take it the enforcing separation philosophy was
> not a prime consideration for your derivative because of the equals
> operation you allow etc...?
>
> Ter
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> On Aug 31, 2004, at 4:07 PM, Andrew Deren wrote:
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> > I just wanted to announce that I wrote another string template engine.
> > I
> > wanted to use antlr engine, but found syntax hard to understand.
> > You can find more info about it at
> > http://www.adersoftware.com/?page=templateEngine
> > Basically it does what StringTemplate does, plus some more stuff (and
> > some
> > less) and syntax is more like XML (actually like Cold Fusion if anyone
> > knows
> > it).
> > Originally I used antlr as lexer/parser, but ended writing my own
> > mostly
> > because I found some construct hard or cumbersome to do using antlr.
> > Currently it only works with .net 2.0, but I'm working on 1.1 port and
> > java
> > version.
> > Sorry if this is a little off-topic, but maybe someone will find this
> > useful, as I already used it for several of my projects.
> > Andrew
> >
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> > Yahoo! Groups Links
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