[antlr-interest] Lazy load of CommonTokenStream??

[Raphael Reitzig]

If you consider ant: Yes.
If not: Not really. Your application may depend on correct packaging  
to work properly (think of hardcoded resource paths, class paths,  
libraries...)

In fact, I often would prefer one download with source, resources and  
one build file with all targets needed to create different bundles.  
Often, you can choose between up to five different downloads, or even  
more.

(Is there a graphical interface for ant?)

Regards

Raphael

"Ron Hunter-Duvar" <ron.hunter-duvar at oracle.com> wrote (Mon Aug 18  
23:34:55 2008):

> But a developer doesn't usually expect to have to build all his  
> tools first (though it happens, esp. in Linux 8^). By your  
> reasoning, the jar files are equally redundant, as they can easily  
> be rebuilt from the Java source files.
>
> Ron
>
>
> Raphael Reitzig wrote:
>> Well, only developers will use ANTLR. A developer should be able  
>> and willing to use common developer tools.
>>
>> I'm not strictly against putting doc in the downloads, but I do not  
>> follow your arguments.
>>
>> Besides, doc in downloads would be redundant. All information is in  
>> the sources (and, as a bonus, can easily and quickly be transformed  
>> to a readable format). I don't like redundancies.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Raphael
>>
>> "Ron Hunter-Duvar" <ron.hunter-duvar at oracle.com> wrote (Mon Aug 18  
>> 21:48:41 2008):
>>
>>> Yeah, but why expect each user to figure out how to do this, and  
>>> install ant and doxygen if they're not already. Why not include it  
>>> in a doc directory in the source shipment if it's already built?
>>>
>>> As it happens, I don't have ant installed due to some broken  
>>> dependencies on the Linux I'm using. Installing ant forces a whole  
>>> bunch of stuff I don't need (Eclipse, gcj, ...) and an Antlr-2.7.6  
>>> package that breaks my use of Antlr 3.1. Until I work around that,  
>>> I can't generate the docs locally.
>>>
>>> Ron
>>>
>>>
>>> Raphael Reitzig wrote:
>>>> That's what ant is made for!
>>>>
>>>> Try typing "ant doc" or "ant javadoc" when in downloads root  
>>>> folder (seeing build.xml). Usually, doc targets are named like  
>>>> that. Any different here?
>>>>
>>>> Raphael
>>>>
>>>> "Ron Hunter-Duvar" <ron.hunter-duvar at oracle.com> wrote (Mon Aug  
>>>> 18 19:02:28 2008):
>>>>
>>>>> That helps, thanks.
>>>>>
>>>>> But I'd still like to have the Javadoc shipped with the source  
>>>>> distribution if possible. It's what I'm used to working with,  
>>>>> and it integrates well with the IDE I use (which doesn't  
>>>>> generate it on its own, AFAIK). It also doesn't require me to be  
>>>>> online to be able to look something up.
>>>>>
>>>>> I thought it was trivial to generate too, but I've never used  
>>>>> the javadoc program myself before. When I tried to generate it I  
>>>>> got a lot of warnings and errors. If I get time I'll look into  
>>>>> it some more.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Ron
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Johannes Luber wrote:
>>>>>> Kay Röpke schrieb:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Aug 18, 2008, at 5:35 PM, Ron Hunter-Duvar wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Javadoc? As far as I can see, there isn't any in the source
>>>>>>>> distribution (and frankly, I was wondering why, but didn't get to
>>>>>>>> asking). Is it supposed to be there and somehow got missed? Or are we
>>>>>>>> supposed to roll our own?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Oh. I guess it isn't generated then. Didn't even notice that, because I
>>>>>>> always use an IDE and it apparently computes that  
>>>>>>> automatically from the
>>>>>>> source attachment I configured.
>>>>>>> I think it should be generated, it's trivial to do so, isn't it?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ter?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Look here: <http://antlr.org/api/Java/index.html>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Johannes
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> cheers,
>>>>>>> -k
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
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