[antlr-interest] [stringtemplate-interest] anybody care to comment on bitbucket.org?

[Sam Harwell]

As a bit more background, I do development on many projects in several
different languages and environments. My "primary" languages are C# and C++
with Visual Studio. For ANTLR and school I also work in Java using IntelliJ
and more recently NetBeans. I always use an external GUI for source control
before checking files in because it gives me extra control in preventing
mistakes when working on someone else's project - I diff every file to
ensure that my code formatting and even whitespace match the settings of
code around my changes. I find that when it specifically comes to checking
files in, IDE integrations can occasionally have "glitches" (unexpected
behavior, nuances, and/or bugs) so I avoid them.

For external tools, I find P4V (Perforce) feature rich but slow and
particularly cumbersome when it comes to experimenting with code checked out
from a read-only repository. Nevertheless, I frequently use it since
Perforce is the chosen SCC for all the commercial projects I've been
involved with. TortoiseHG Workbench has been exceptional (but not perfect),
and has stable, complete support across all of the development environments
I work with. TortoiseSVN is truly polished and performs very well, but
suffers from limitations imposed by SVN itself.

Git concerns me not only for falling behind these in toolchain/GUI support
on Windows, but I also don't see a big movement to close the gap. TortoiseHG
is a particular example of a very actively developed project with frequent
releases.

--
Sam Harwell
Owner, Lead Developer
http://tunnelvisionlabs.com


-----Original Message-----
From: Sujith Pillai [mailto:sujithspillai at gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 10:12 AM
To: Terence Parr
Cc: stringtemplate-interest List; antlr-interest Interest; Zenaan Harkness
Subject: Re: [antlr-interest] [stringtemplate-interest] anybody care to
comment on bitbucket.org?

1) TortoiseGit - very popular
2) msysgit - second
3) SmartGit - I have heard good things about this, but haven't met someone
who uses this (yet).



On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 11:01 AM, Terence Parr <parrt at cs.usfca.edu> wrote:
> I'm leaning towards git but Sam Harwell, who is super important on this
project, using windows and would need good git gui outside of dev tool. Can
anybody comment on what is useful (non cmd-line)?
>
> Ter
> On Jan 17, 2012, at 4:08 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 09:54, John D. Mitchell <jdmitchell at gmail.com>
wrote:
>> Hg and Git are comparable on a feature basis.
>>
>> However, Hg and Git are built with very different philosophies. Git is
perfectly happy to allow mutation of history.
>>
>> By default, public repositories are not rebase-able. The fact that
something _can_ be achieved should not be held against it.
>>
>> And locally, if you don't want to rebase, don't. I find that on small,
private-only "feature" branches or "experiment" branches, that rebasing is a
useful tool. So is cherry picking. Knowing when to use a powerful tool is
part of being a good technician/ programmer.
>>
>> Git was a steep learning curve for me. "Pro Git" book I find excellent.
Bought a paper copy.
>>
>> I used bitkeeper, arch/tla, and cvs etc. in the past. I think others have
said, but git stash is a godsend, as well as other bits and bobs.
>>
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