[antlr-interest] ANTLR build and package layout

[Xue-Feng Yang]

Were I thrashing your issue?

No, I just said:"Totally disagree!" and "The link you
gave doesn't talk about 'why that's bad'". Then lots
of your fans jumped out. That's it. You have a good
kingdom. They think you are the person like Bool and
John von Neuman. However, I don't agree again. If you
are a real scholar, then you should tell them the
truth. The words I inputed is nothing wrong with the
truth.

Sorry to get into your kingdom. 



Totally disagree!
> > > >
> > > > The link you gave doesn't talk about "why
> that's
> > > > bad".

--- Trey Spiva <Trey.Spiva at embarcadero.com> wrote:
> --- Terence Parr <parrt at jguru.com> wrote:
> Nonetheless, my goal is to make ANTLR useful for You
> folks.  Hence, if
> somebody sends me a fresh Ant script with an
> explanation so I don't have to
> think much, I will consider inserting it and using
> it for ANTLR builds.
> 
> What more do you want.  Why are you thrashing on
> this issue?
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Xue-Feng Yang [mailto:just4look at yahoo.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 1:12 PM
> > To: antlr-interest at yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [antlr-interest] ANTLR build and
> package layout
> > 
> > Do you know Ant?
> > 
> > Sure, you may not think it a fundamental
> contribution
> > to computer science. However, it is much popular.
> > 
> > 
> > Regard the comment. The great man said:"because it
> > forces users to type XML". I don't think this is a
> > point since only one person needs to write a
> build.xml
> > for ANTLR and all others can share.
> > 
> > XML is not good if the data itself doesn't have
> tree
> > structure, such as, 2*3+e^(sin(x)). It may result
> the
> > data difficult to read. However, Ant is not the
> case.
> > 
> > --- Matt Benson <gudnabrsam at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > The article basically says that XML adds levels
> of
> > > complexity the human mind has evolved to infer
> by
> > > reflex.  Hopefully he wouldn't have to explain
> "why
> > > that's bad."  Beyond that, I personally am
> careful
> > > how
> > > I speak to those who have made fundamental
> > > contributions to computer science.  Have you?
> > >
> > > Just some thoughts,
> > > Matt
> > >
> > > --- Xue-Feng Yang <just4look at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > Totally disagree!
> > > >
> > > > The link you gave doesn't talk about "why
> that's
> > > > bad".
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > BTW, I wrote several compilers without using
> any
> > > > compiler compiler. However I never think that
> > > > compiler
> > > > compiler is useless.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- Terence Parr <parrt at jguru.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thursday, September 19, 2002, at 06:27 
> AM,
> > > > Matt
> > > > > Benson wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > For whatever it's worth, Brian is not the
> only
> > > > one
> > > > > out
> > > > > > here who wishes there were an Ant build
> for
> > > > ANTLR.
> > > > >
> > > > > I am fundamentally opposed to Ant (even
> though
> > > it
> > > > is
> > > > > reputed to be
> > > > > good) because it forces users to type XML. 
> See
> > > > > "Humans Should Not Have
> > > > > to Grok XML", which explains why that's bad:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/library/x-sbxml.html
> > > > >
> > > > > I believe I'm pretty persuasive in that
> article.
> > > > ;)
> > > > > [though it will
> > > > > make no difference whatsoever to most people
> who
> > > > are
> > > > > "every language
> > > > > should be XML" people--makes me wanna retch,
> but
> > > > > that emotion is a good
> > > > > thing since it forced me to make ANTLR (yacc
> > > makes
> > > >
> > > > > me...well..er...yack!)].
> > > > >
> > > > > Nonetheless, my goal is to make ANTLR useful
> for
> > > > you
> > > > > folks.  Hence, if
> > > > > somebody sends me a fresh Ant script with an
> > > > > explanation so I don't
> > > > > have to think much, I will consider
> inserting it
> > > > and
> > > > > using it for ANTLR
> > > > > builds.
> > > > >
> > > > > Ter
> > > > > --
> > > > > Co-founder, http://www.jguru.com
> > > > > Creator, ANTLR Parser Generator:
> > > > > http://www.antlr.org
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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