[antlr-interest] ANTLR build and package layout

Matthew Ford Matthew.Ford at forward.com.au
Thu Sep 19 15:00:56 PDT 2002


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matthew
----- Original Message -----
From: "Trey Spiva" <Trey.Spiva at embarcadero.com>
To: <antlr-interest at yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2002 5:05 AM
Subject: RE: [antlr-interest] ANTLR build and package layout


>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Xue-Feng Yang [mailto:just4look at yahoo.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 1:02 PM
> > To: antlr-interest at yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [antlr-interest] ANTLR build and package layout
> >
> > Ooooops, I don't ANTLR is a fundamental contribution
> > to computer science. Then who am I? So bad.
>
> Some one who has no respect for others point of view. Especially if it
> differs from your own.
>
> >
> >
> > --- Matt Benson <gudnabrsam at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > The article basically says that XML adds levels of
> > > complexity the human mind has evolved to infer by
> > > reflex.  Hopefully he wouldn't have to explain "why
> > > that's bad."  Beyond that, I personally am careful
> > > how
> > > I speak to those who have made fundamental
> > > contributions to computer science.  Have you?
> > >
> > > Just some thoughts,
> > > Matt
> > >
> > > --- Xue-Feng Yang <just4look at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > Totally disagree!
> > > >
> > > > The link you gave doesn't talk about "why that's
> > > > bad".
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > BTW, I wrote several compilers without using any
> > > > compiler compiler. However I never think that
> > > > compiler
> > > > compiler is useless.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- Terence Parr <parrt at jguru.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thursday, September 19, 2002, at 06:27  AM,
> > > > Matt
> > > > > Benson wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > For whatever it's worth, Brian is not the only
> > > > one
> > > > > out
> > > > > > here who wishes there were an Ant build for
> > > > ANTLR.
> > > > >
> > > > > I am fundamentally opposed to Ant (even though
> > > it
> > > > is
> > > > > reputed to be
> > > > > good) because it forces users to type XML.  See
> > > > > "Humans Should Not Have
> > > > > to Grok XML", which explains why that's bad:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/library/x-sbxml.html
> > > > >
> > > > > I believe I'm pretty persuasive in that article.
> > > > ;)
> > > > > [though it will
> > > > > make no difference whatsoever to most people who
> > > > are
> > > > > "every language
> > > > > should be XML" people--makes me wanna retch, but
> > > > > that emotion is a good
> > > > > thing since it forced me to make ANTLR (yacc
> > > makes
> > > >
> > > > > me...well..er...yack!)].
> > > > >
> > > > > Nonetheless, my goal is to make ANTLR useful for
> > > > you
> > > > > folks.  Hence, if
> > > > > somebody sends me a fresh Ant script with an
> > > > > explanation so I don't
> > > > > have to think much, I will consider inserting it
> > > > and
> > > > > using it for ANTLR
> > > > > builds.
> > > > >
> > > > > Ter
> > > > > --
> > > > > Co-founder, http://www.jguru.com
> > > > > Creator, ANTLR Parser Generator:
> > > > > http://www.antlr.org
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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