[antlr-interest] "Language design patterns" book available in beta

Edwards, Waverly Waverly.Edwards at genesys.com
Fri Jun 5 12:34:34 PDT 2009


 
>>
 I think if you read the book and look at
the related source code outside of the book, it will make sense but 
the reverse would not be true

<<

That didn't come out right.  What I meant was I have to infer more through
reading the code and I just may miss some of the meaning you are trying
to convey.


W.

-----Original Message-----
From: Edwards, Waverly 
Sent: Friday, June 05, 2009 3:30 PM
To: antlr ANTLR
Subject: RE: [antlr-interest] "Language design patterns" book available in beta


I am getting quite a bit out of the descriptions of the patterns.
I think that by giving the descriptions you provide the framework so if 
someone were to look at code, it will make sense.  If I had code but
less description of the pattern then the moment of discovery may not
occur.  I am really liking the descriptions and the inline reference
to other pages or chapters.  I see how they are related and the mental
connections are being made.  I think if you read the book and look at
the related source code outside of the book, it will make sense but 
the reverse would not be true.

Also putting the full source puts pressure to leave something else out.

I favor a robust pattern description.


W.

-----Original Message-----
From: Terence Parr [mailto:parrt at cs.usfca.edu] 
Sent: Friday, June 05, 2009 1:40 PM
To: Edwards, Waverly
Cc: antlr ANTLR
Subject: Re: [antlr-interest] "Language design patterns" book available in beta

Glad to hear the book is meeting your expectations. I only have about  
80 pages left and I just consumed 26 of those four the first of the  
interpreter chapters. doh!

If I have to skimp to make it into only 350 pages, where should I be  
terse? should I skip patterns or should I include the full source code  
for the pattern and a less verbose description?

Ter

On Jun 5, 2009, at 7:00 AM, Edwards, Waverly wrote:

>
> I'll pay extra for the extra material.
>> From what I've seen so far, it will be well worth it.
>
>
> W.
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> ] On Behalf Of ugol
> Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 6:28 PM
> To: Terence Parr
> Cc: String Template Mailing LIst; antlr ANTLR
> Subject: Re: [antlr-interest] "Language design patterns" book  
> available in beta
>
>> ha! Yeah, we don't want to create a very intimidating huge book  
>> though.
>>
>> I know what you mean. as I started this interpreter chapter, I felt
>> like I  could finally start the book! I had gone through all of the
>> preliminary material.  Readers could parse, build an intermediate
>> representation, walk trees, track and resolve symbols, and do  
>> semantic
>> analysis such as static type checking.
>>
>
> If you really run out of pages, just publish additional material on
> the site... but limitating the most interesting part of the book is
> crazy!!!!!
>
> -- 
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