[antlr-interest] ANTLR build and package layout

[Xue-Feng Yang]

--- Xue-Feng Yang <just4look at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Ooooops, I don't ANTLR is a fundamental contribution
> to computer science. Then who am I? So bad.
> 
I don't think ANTLR is a fundamental contribution to
computer science.


>  
> --- Matt Benson <gudnabrsam at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > The article basically says that XML adds levels of
> > complexity the human mind has evolved to infer by
> > reflex.  Hopefully he wouldn't have to explain
> "why
> > that's bad."  Beyond that, I personally am careful
> > how
> > I speak to those who have made fundamental
> > contributions to computer science.  Have you?
> > 
> > Just some thoughts,
> > Matt
> > 
> > --- Xue-Feng Yang <just4look at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > Totally disagree!
> > > 
> > > The link you gave doesn't talk about "why that's
> > > bad".
> > > 
> > > 
> > > BTW, I wrote several compilers without using any
> > > compiler compiler. However I never think that
> > > compiler
> > > compiler is useless.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- Terence Parr <parrt at jguru.com> wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > On Thursday, September 19, 2002, at 06:27  AM,
> > > Matt
> > > > Benson wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > For whatever it's worth, Brian is not the
> only
> > > one
> > > > out
> > > > > here who wishes there were an Ant build for
> > > ANTLR.
> > > > 
> > > > I am fundamentally opposed to Ant (even though
> > it
> > > is
> > > > reputed to be 
> > > > good) because it forces users to type XML. 
> See
> > > > "Humans Should Not Have 
> > > > to Grok XML", which explains why that's bad:
> > > > 
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/library/x-sbxml.html
> > > > 
> > > > I believe I'm pretty persuasive in that
> article.
> > > ;) 
> > > > [though it will 
> > > > make no difference whatsoever to most people
> who
> > > are
> > > > "every language 
> > > > should be XML" people--makes me wanna retch,
> but
> > > > that emotion is a good 
> > > > thing since it forced me to make ANTLR (yacc
> > makes
> > > 
> > > > me...well..er...yack!)].
> > > > 
> > > > Nonetheless, my goal is to make ANTLR useful
> for
> > > you
> > > > folks.  Hence, if 
> > > > somebody sends me a fresh Ant script with an
> > > > explanation so I don't 
> > > > have to think much, I will consider inserting
> it
> > > and
> > > > using it for ANTLR 
> > > > builds.
> > > > 
> > > > Ter
> > > > --
> > > > Co-founder, http://www.jguru.com
> > > > Creator, ANTLR Parser Generator:
> > > > http://www.antlr.org
> > > > 
> > > > 
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