[antlr-interest] ANTLR build and package layout

Xue-Feng Yang just4look at yahoo.com
Thu Sep 19 12:02:27 PDT 2002


Ooooops, I don't ANTLR is a fundamental contribution
to computer science. Then who am I? So bad.

 
--- Matt Benson <gudnabrsam at yahoo.com> wrote:
> The article basically says that XML adds levels of
> complexity the human mind has evolved to infer by
> reflex.  Hopefully he wouldn't have to explain "why
> that's bad."  Beyond that, I personally am careful
> how
> I speak to those who have made fundamental
> contributions to computer science.  Have you?
> 
> Just some thoughts,
> Matt
> 
> --- Xue-Feng Yang <just4look at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Totally disagree!
> > 
> > The link you gave doesn't talk about "why that's
> > bad".
> > 
> > 
> > BTW, I wrote several compilers without using any
> > compiler compiler. However I never think that
> > compiler
> > compiler is useless.
> > 
> > 
> > --- Terence Parr <parrt at jguru.com> wrote:
> > > 
> > > On Thursday, September 19, 2002, at 06:27  AM,
> > Matt
> > > Benson wrote:
> > > 
> > > > For whatever it's worth, Brian is not the only
> > one
> > > out
> > > > here who wishes there were an Ant build for
> > ANTLR.
> > > 
> > > I am fundamentally opposed to Ant (even though
> it
> > is
> > > reputed to be 
> > > good) because it forces users to type XML.  See
> > > "Humans Should Not Have 
> > > to Grok XML", which explains why that's bad:
> > > 
> > >
> >
>
http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/library/x-sbxml.html
> > > 
> > > I believe I'm pretty persuasive in that article.
> > ;) 
> > > [though it will 
> > > make no difference whatsoever to most people who
> > are
> > > "every language 
> > > should be XML" people--makes me wanna retch, but
> > > that emotion is a good 
> > > thing since it forced me to make ANTLR (yacc
> makes
> > 
> > > me...well..er...yack!)].
> > > 
> > > Nonetheless, my goal is to make ANTLR useful for
> > you
> > > folks.  Hence, if 
> > > somebody sends me a fresh Ant script with an
> > > explanation so I don't 
> > > have to think much, I will consider inserting it
> > and
> > > using it for ANTLR 
> > > builds.
> > > 
> > > Ter
> > > --
> > > Co-founder, http://www.jguru.com
> > > Creator, ANTLR Parser Generator:
> > > http://www.antlr.org
> > > 
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
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