[antlr-interest] Re: 2.7.2 build system is fubar

Ric Klaren klaren at cs.utwente.nl
Mon Feb 17 07:46:33 PST 2003


Hi,

On Mon, Feb 17, 2003 at 03:34:32PM -0000, Dave <davekam at pobox.com> wrote:
> Yes, I've tried it now -- works fine. But maybe it should be possible
> to install antlr and antlr-config without recompiling the java? No
> biggie though. The compiling works fine and all. Just, well, you're
> not supposed to have to recompile java when the source hasn't changed? ;)

It might be because of some weird thing with the date's on the sources and
antlr.jar (or the absence of antlrall.jar) Could also be an artifact of the
rule to make .g files. Those use a little help file which is probably not
in the archive.

> > There's no functionality in automake that that is not easily added
> to the
> > current Makefile's. Automake will only make it harder for me to maintain
> > (keeping up with new versions and debugging automake stuff is sheer
> hell).
> > So in short I won't do it, and I will not accept patches on antlr to
> > support it either.
> 
> OK, apologies for jumping to conclusions -- it just seems like most
> programs are using automake these days. But I'm only just learning
> about it so I don't really know what it's like to debug, etc.

No need to apologize ;) When I first saw automake/libtool I thought they
were cool, but they only work really well in a defaultish setup. (The local
Solaris setup forces me to hardcode library paths in shared objects and
that's impossible to do with libtool atm) I also dislike all the copies of
settings in all submakefiles. I prefer to have one settings makefile that
fits all and local settings where needed.

Cheers,

Ric
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