[antlr-interest] Lazy load of CommonTokenStream??

Ron Hunter-Duvar ron.hunter-duvar at oracle.com
Mon Aug 18 14:34:55 PDT 2008


But a developer doesn't usually expect to have to build all his tools 
first (though it happens, esp. in Linux 8^). By your reasoning, the jar 
files are equally redundant, as they can easily be rebuilt from the Java 
source files.

Ron


Raphael Reitzig wrote:
> Well, only developers will use ANTLR. A developer should be able and 
> willing to use common developer tools.
>
> I'm not strictly against putting doc in the downloads, but I do not 
> follow your arguments.
>
> Besides, doc in downloads would be redundant. All information is in 
> the sources (and, as a bonus, can easily and quickly be transformed to 
> a readable format). I don't like redundancies.
>
> Regards
>
> Raphael
>
> "Ron Hunter-Duvar" <ron.hunter-duvar at oracle.com> wrote (Mon Aug 18 
> 21:48:41 2008):
>
>> Yeah, but why expect each user to figure out how to do this, and 
>> install ant and doxygen if they're not already. Why not include it in 
>> a doc directory in the source shipment if it's already built?
>>
>> As it happens, I don't have ant installed due to some broken 
>> dependencies on the Linux I'm using. Installing ant forces a whole 
>> bunch of stuff I don't need (Eclipse, gcj, ...) and an Antlr-2.7.6 
>> package that breaks my use of Antlr 3.1. Until I work around that, I 
>> can't generate the docs locally.
>>
>> Ron
>>
>>
>> Raphael Reitzig wrote:
>>> That's what ant is made for!
>>>
>>> Try typing "ant doc" or "ant javadoc" when in downloads root folder 
>>> (seeing build.xml). Usually, doc targets are named like that. Any 
>>> different here?
>>>
>>> Raphael
>>>
>>> "Ron Hunter-Duvar" <ron.hunter-duvar at oracle.com> wrote (Mon Aug 18 
>>> 19:02:28 2008):
>>>
>>>> That helps, thanks.
>>>>
>>>> But I'd still like to have the Javadoc shipped with the source 
>>>> distribution if possible. It's what I'm used to working with, and 
>>>> it integrates well with the IDE I use (which doesn't generate it on 
>>>> its own, AFAIK). It also doesn't require me to be online to be able 
>>>> to look something up.
>>>>
>>>> I thought it was trivial to generate too, but I've never used the 
>>>> javadoc program myself before. When I tried to generate it I got a 
>>>> lot of warnings and errors. If I get time I'll look into it some more.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Ron
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Johannes Luber wrote:
>>>>> Kay Röpke schrieb:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Aug 18, 2008, at 5:35 PM, Ron Hunter-Duvar wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Javadoc? As far as I can see, there isn't any in the source
>>>>>>> distribution (and frankly, I was wondering why, but didn't get to
>>>>>>> asking). Is it supposed to be there and somehow got missed? Or 
>>>>>>> are we
>>>>>>> supposed to roll our own?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Oh. I guess it isn't generated then. Didn't even notice that, 
>>>>>> because I
>>>>>> always use an IDE and it apparently computes that automatically 
>>>>>> from the
>>>>>> source attachment I configured.
>>>>>> I think it should be generated, it's trivial to do so, isn't it?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ter?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Look here: <http://antlr.org/api/Java/index.html>
>>>>>
>>>>> Johannes
>>>>>
>>>>>> cheers,
>>>>>> -k
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
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>>>> Oracle Service Engineering
>>>> Gulf Canada Square 401 - 9th Avenue S.W., Calgary, AB, Canada T2P 3C5
>>>>
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>>>> those of my employer.
>>>>
>>>>
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