[antlr-interest] Re: Not moderating == not professional

lgcraymer lgc at mail1.jpl.nasa.gov
Mon Dec 8 23:38:17 PST 2003


I don't buy your argument.  I think that part of the reason for the 
eroticy.com choice of user names is to avoid legal problems and that 
moderation might scare them off.  As long as they use names 
indicative of content, they can claim that they were "invited" and 
not be vulnerable to lawsuit.  Advertising SPAM is for the purpose 
of making money; lawsuits are not a desired consequence on the part 
of the spammer.


--- In antlr-interest at yahoogroups.com, Terence Parr <parrt at c...> 
> Sorry folks.  I know SPAM sucks, but if you think moderating will 
> you've not thought much about spam ;)  The only thing that will 
work is 
> if I manually check each and every message not the user.  Sorry, 
> that would reduce the timeliness of this list and make it not 
nearly as 
> good.  I've got enough work keeping the site up, writing articles 
> it, fixing bugs, doing the new version and doing my teaching gig.
> I might as well spell out the problem: i can moderate so 
> "sexy at i..." can't post, but 
> they will simply change their email address to 
> "Paul_Selormey at h..." or 
> "dotlessbraille at i...".  The minute I block those, 
> they reappear with a different email.  You are fighting a losing 
> battle.  The only solution is to attack with DOS and have your ISP 
> on you or let's all start hammering the yahoo guys to attack these 
> spammers since Loring says they are coming from the same place 
> different emails.
> Shall we all flood the yahoo complaint email?
> Surely you see that moderation is not an option.  May we dispense 
> this conversation about moderation now?
> Let's get yahoo to do something.
> your commiserating, but nonmoderator, ;)
> parrt secretly aliased as parrt2000 ;)
> On Monday, December 8, 2003, at 09:18  PM, brian-l-smith at u... 
> wrote:
> > Quoting Paul Selormey <paul at t...>:
> >
> >> The moderator is only listed as parrt2000, I do not know why he 
> >> still not responded to a request to moderate the list or let 
> >> interested to.
> >>
> >> parrt2000 come out and lets clean the spammers from the list.
> >
> > We already had this discussion like a month ago and he did 
> > RTFA:
> > Threads "spam" and "spam/IRONIC." By the way, Terence Parr = 
> > Unfortunately, the problem seems to be getting worse as (a) the 
> > quantity of spam
> > has increased a lot, and (b) the said spam is no longer 
hilarious as 
> > it was before.
> >
> > Spam filtering tip: "[antlr-interest] i'm having an orgy party 
at my 
> > place" is
> > probably not the subject line of an email containing a detailed 
> > discourse on the
> > merits of predicated-LL(k) parsing.
> >
> > Love,
> > Brian
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to 
> > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
> >
> >
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