[antlr-interest] Re: Not moderating == not professional

[Paul Selormey]

Agreed, and the earlier we start the better. Otherwise we may
reach a stage that will make it difficult to clean the list due to
the number of members.

Best regards,
Paul.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "lgcraymer" <lgc at mail1.jpl.nasa.gov>
To: <antlr-interest at yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 4:38 PM
Subject: [antlr-interest] Re: Not moderating == not professional


> Ter--
>
> I don't buy your argument.  I think that part of the reason for the
> eroticy.com choice of user names is to avoid legal problems and that
> moderation might scare them off.  As long as they use names
> indicative of content, they can claim that they were "invited" and
> not be vulnerable to lawsuit.  Advertising SPAM is for the purpose
> of making money; lawsuits are not a desired consequence on the part
> of the spammer.
>
> --Loring
>
>
> --- In antlr-interest at yahoogroups.com, Terence Parr <parrt at c...>
> wrote:
> > Sorry folks.  I know SPAM sucks, but if you think moderating will
> help,
> > you've not thought much about spam ;)  The only thing that will
> work is
> > if I manually check each and every message not the user.  Sorry,
> but
> > that would reduce the timeliness of this list and make it not
> nearly as
> > good.  I've got enough work keeping the site up, writing articles
> for
> > it, fixing bugs, doing the new version and doing my teaching gig.
> >
> > I might as well spell out the problem: i can moderate so
> > "sexy at i..." can't post, but
> > they will simply change their email address to
> > "Paul_Selormey at h..." or
> > "dotlessbraille at i...".  The minute I block those,
> > they reappear with a different email.  You are fighting a losing
> > battle.  The only solution is to attack with DOS and have your ISP
> down
> > on you or let's all start hammering the yahoo guys to attack these
> > spammers since Loring says they are coming from the same place
> just
> > different emails.
> >
> > Shall we all flood the yahoo complaint email?
> >
> > Surely you see that moderation is not an option.  May we dispense
> with
> > this conversation about moderation now?
> >
> > Let's get yahoo to do something.
> >
> > your commiserating, but nonmoderator, ;)
> > parrt secretly aliased as parrt2000 ;)
> >
> > On Monday, December 8, 2003, at 09:18  PM, brian-l-smith at u...
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Quoting Paul Selormey <paul at t...>:
> > >
> > >> The moderator is only listed as parrt2000, I do not know why he
> has
> > >> still not responded to a request to moderate the list or let
> anyone
> > >> interested to.
> > >>
> > >> parrt2000 come out and lets clean the spammers from the list.
> > >
> > > We already had this discussion like a month ago and he did
> respond.
> > > RTFA:
> > > Threads "spam" and "spam/IRONIC." By the way, Terence Parr =
> parrt2000.
> > > Unfortunately, the problem seems to be getting worse as (a) the
> > > quantity of spam
> > > has increased a lot, and (b) the said spam is no longer
> hilarious as
> > > it was before.
> > >
> > > Spam filtering tip: "[antlr-interest] i'm having an orgy party
> at my
> > > place" is
> > > probably not the subject line of an email containing a detailed
> > > discourse on the
> > > merits of predicated-LL(k) parsing.
> > >
> > > Love,
> > > Brian
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > >
> > >
> > >
> > --
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> > Creator, ANTLR Parser Generator, http://www.antlr.org
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>
>
>
>
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