[antlr-interest] Getting the hang of this

[Bryan S Follins]

Loring

Thanks for the advice.  But Tom helped. He taught instead of judged. Just
like people are intolerant about those who don't carry their own weight, I'm
intolerant about being judged all the time.  I'll say it again, I am
pursuing an MS in computer science. I'm trying to get my degree online,
which means distance learning. I also have a liberal arts background. So, I
see, and comprehend a little differently. I have to work, like I'm sure most
of you do.  Sometimes I might ask a question, and it make take 24 hours to
get an answer. I can understand that, but it doesn't help the learning
process. I'm sure you may have come upon a situation once upon a time where
some tutoring advice may work a little better than reading something. Let me
ask you a question. If you are really stomped on a problem, and you sit
there and try and try again for six, seven, or eight hours without a
solution, knowing your time is limited, what would be the proper course of
action? I mean, without cheating.  I would think it would be go to a talk
group like this where someone may be able to explain it to you. I go to
links all the time to find documentation, trust me.  It's just that
sometimes, I might need a little extra help.  This morning someone took
about 30 minutes to help, and in solving one problem, they helped me to
solve many others.

I know there are people around who just want people to do their work for
them.  I'm not one of those.  I'm also a teacher like some in this group, so
I also understand the importance of patience and not being quick to judge.

I figure if I learn something, I might be able to pass it on to someone in
my situation.  

Also, I have a question for you, what exactly are "toy" problems? It may be
that one man's meat is another man's problem. I'm sure that everybody had to
start learning somewhere, and somewhere along the line they had "toy"
problems.  I guess the ol' saying "there is no such thing as a stupid
question" does not work all the time after all.

And, what type of student wants to bypass the learning process??  I
understand there are some, but it's not me.

Bryan

-----Original Message-----
From: Loring Craymer [mailto:lgcraymer at yahoo.com] 
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 18:08
To: Bryan S Follins; Dave Dutcher; antlr-interest
Subject: Re: [antlr-interest] Getting the hang of this


Bryan--

Relax.  People here are always willing to help, but intolerant of anyone who
isn't interested in carrying their own weight.  Anyone asking about toy
problems is assumed to be a student looking to bypass the learning process.
I suggest following Dave's advice on reading the tutorials, then asking
again with a more challenging problem.  I think that you will find this a
much more responsive group.

--Loring



----- Original Message ----
> From: Bryan S Follins <asalh at mindspring.com>
> To: Dave Dutcher <dave at tridecap.com>; antlr-interest
<antlr-interest at antlr.org>
> Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 9:31:33 AM
> Subject: Re: [antlr-interest] Getting the hang of this
> 
> It sounds like you are wrong.  This is a practice grammar that was given
to
> us in a lecture. It was not for a grade. It was for practice. What I am
> trying to do is expound on teaching myself the  grammar, or, in other
words
> teach myself. Look, as you may have already discovered, I am a beginner.
I
> am not going to get on this site to ask someone to do my homework
problems.
> I am actually trying to learn something. I am sorry if I disturbed the
> computer gods.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dave Dutcher [mailto:dave at tridecap.com] 
> Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 08:21
> To: 'Bryan S Follins'; 'antlr-interest'
> Subject: RE: [antlr-interest] Getting the hang of this
> 
> 
> It sounds like you are trying to get somebody to answer your homework
> questions for you.  Have you even tried going to www.antlr.org and reading
> the tutorials and docs?
> 
> 
> Dave
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: antlr-interest-bounces at antlr.org 
> > [mailto:antlr-interest-bounces at antlr.org] On Behalf Of Bryan S Follins
> > Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 12:25 AM
> > To: 'antlr-interest'
> > Subject: Re: [antlr-interest] Getting the hang of this
> > 
> > Is anyone out there?
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Bryan S Follins [mailto:asalh at mindspring.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 17:43
> > To: 'Bryan S Follins'; 'antlr-interest'
> > Subject: RE: [antlr-interest] Getting the hang of this
> > 
> > Or in other words, how can I add a rule to the code below 
> > which would allow me to enter a number (like a zip code?)
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: antlr-interest-bounces at antlr.org
> > [mailto:antlr-interest-bounces at antlr.org] On Behalf Of Bryan S Follins
> > Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 16:22
> > To: 'antlr-interest'
> > Subject: [antlr-interest] Getting the hang of this
> > 
> > 
> > OK...The following is ANTLR Code
> > 
> > grammar T;
> > 
> > r    :    'call' ID ';'    {System.out.println("invoke 
> > "+$ID.text);};
> > ID    :    'a'..'z'+;
> > WS    :    (' ' | '\n' | '\r')+ {$channel=HIDDEN;};
> > 
> > 
> > Lets say, in addition, I wanted to add some code that also 
> > give me a numerical password, how would I do it?  In other 
> > words, after entering text for a name to be compiled, what 
> > code could I use to let me enter a number in ANTLRWorks?
> > 
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